{"id":110,"date":"2004-08-17T22:23:40","date_gmt":"2004-08-17T12:23:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/?p=110"},"modified":"2005-09-11T22:24:25","modified_gmt":"2005-09-11T12:24:25","slug":"plural-of-guinness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/?p=110","title":{"rendered":"Plural of Guinness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now here&#8217;s a debate that has been raging all over the net &#8211; when you order more than one pint of Guinness (as one often does!) there is always that slight awkward pause &#8211; especially for a linguist like myself &#8211; as to the correct word to use. My first inclination, and the version I use probably more often than not is to refer to multiple Guinnaeii. This usually gets a reaction varying between a laugh and a raised eyebrow, preparatory to someone about to &#8230; er&#8230; offering an alternative form of the noun.<\/p>\n<p>And as I think it through I would have to ask myself about the derivation of the word &#8211; clearly, if it had a Latin derivation then I might be quite close to the mark with Guinnaeii. This might even work with a Greek derivation (not sure about that). But we are not actually talking about a class of drink, which may have latin or greek roots in the phonemes. Instead, we are dealing with a brand name, a proper noun. For this reason I would probably avoid the &#8216;sheep&#8217; example which would make it multiple Guinness. As a proper noun I suspect it would be like the plural of Jones &#8211; making it Joneses &#8211; and in this case I would suggest that the plural form Guinnesses would in fact be the most &#8216;correct&#8217; for traditional grammarians. I suspect this one would also win on the basis of usage, although I have not taken a survey on this. Of course you can always avoid any confusion by referring to &#8216;pints of Guinness&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>So there you have it &#8211; and while you&#8217;re there perhaps you can make it a couple of Guinnesses for me too!<br \/>\nAnd if you are in Ireland you would naturally avoid the English language as much as possible, so you would order thusly: &#8220;Piont (leath-phiont) Guinness led&#8217; thoil&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Cheers<br \/>\nJerry<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now here&#8217;s a debate that has been raging all over the net &#8211; when you order more than one pint of Guinness (as one often does!) there is always that slight awkward pause &#8211; especially for a linguist like myself &#8211; as to the correct word to use. My first inclination, and the version I [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,9,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-110","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-journal","category-travel","category-writing"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/110"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=110"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/110\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=110"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=110"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/lostbiro.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=110"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}